Significant Increase of Patient Information and Satisfaction with Longer Initial Consultation Duration in Breast Cancer - First Results of the WAVES Study

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Nina Ditsch*,+,1,2 and Melitta B. Köpke+,1,2,31, Renate Haidinger13, Brigitte Welter15, Ute-Susann Albert1,3, Christoph Aulmann1,4,30,  Traudl Baumgartner12, Stefanie Corradini1,5, Christian Dannecker1,2, Johannes Ettl1,6,24, Nadia Harbeck1,7, Carolin C. Hack1,17, Anne Herrmann1,23,29, Christian Hinske16, Marion Kiechle1,6, Alkomiet Hasan18,26, Klaus E. Jopp20, Monika Klinkhammer-Schalke25, Oliver Koelbl1,9, Christoph Jung21, Olaf Ortmann1,9, Anna Rubeck10, Gernot Müller10, Verena Schmid11, Frank Kramer11, Franziska Feiler11, Eva Schildmann30,  Stephan Seitz1,9, Miriam Weiss8, Nadja Will19, Achim Wöckel1,3, Eva Schumacher-Wulff14, Hedy Kerek-Bodden27, Peter Jurmeister28, Carl Mathis Wild2,16, Rachel Wuerstlein1,7, Peter A. Fasching1,17, Susanne Kinnebrock22, Miriam Kunz8, Stefan Schiele10, Matthias W. Beckmann1,17

1Bavarian Cancer Research Center (BZKF), study group breast cancer, Maximiliansplatz 2, 91054 Erlangen, Germany

2Gynecology, Obstetrics and Senology, Faculty of Medicine, University of Augsburg, Stenglinsr. 2, 86156 Augsburg, Germany

3Department of Gynecology and Obstetrics, University Hospital Würzburg, Josef-Schneider-Strasse 4, 97080 Würzburg, Germany

4Department of Internal Medicine, Augsburg University Hospital, Stenglinstr. 2, 86156 Augsburg, Germany

5Clinic and Polyclinic for Radiotherapy and Radiooncology, LMU Klinikum, Marchioninistr. 15, 81377 Munich, Germany

6Clinic and Polyclinic for Gynecology, Technical University of Munich, Ismaninger Str. 22, 81675 Munich, Germany

7Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Breast Center and CCC Munich, LMU Klinikum, Marchioninistr 15, 81377 Munich, Germany

8Department of Medical Psychology and Sociology, University of Augsburg, Universitätsstraße 2, 86159 Augsburg, Germany

9University Hospital Regensburg, Landshuter Str. 65, 93053 Regensburg, Germany

10Computational Statistics and Data Analysis, University of Augsburg, Universitätsstraße 2, 86159 Augsburg, Germany

11IT Infrastructures for Translational Medical Research, University of Augsburg, Universitätsstraße 2, 86159 Augsburg, Germany

12BRCA Network e.V, Thomas-Mann-Str. 40, 53111 Bonn, Germany

13Brustkrebs Deutschland e.V, Lise-Meitner-Str. 7, 85662 Hohenbrunn, Germnay

14Mamma-MIA – The Cancer Magazine, Maria-Hilf-Str. 15, 50677 Cologne, Germany

15Mamazone e.V, Max-Hempel-Str. 3, 86153 Augsburg, Germany

16Institute for Digital Medicine, University Augsburg, Stenglinstr. 2, 86156 Augsburg, Germany

17Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Comprehensive Cancer Center ER-EMN, University Hospital, Friedrich-Alexander-University, Universitätsstr. 23, 91054 Erlangen, Germany

18Department of Psychiatry, Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics, Faculty of Medicine, University of Augsburg, Geschwister-Schönert-Str. 1, 86156 Augsburg, Germany.

19Think pink club® e.V, Paulusstr. 45a, 33602 Bielefeld, Germany

20Jopp Communications, Röntgenstr. 1, 86415 Mering, Germany

21Practice for Oncology, Hematology, palliative care Traunstein, Schierghofstr. 1, 83278 Traunstein, Germany

22Public Communication, Universitätsstraße 10, 86159 Augsburg, Germany

23Department of Epidemiology and Preventive Medicine, Medical Sociology, University Hospital Regensburg, Franz-Josef-Strauss-Allee11, Germany

24Hospital Kempten, Robert-Weixler-Straße 50, 87439 Kempten, Germany

25Tumor Center Regensburg, Center for Quality Assurance and Health Services Research at the Faculty of Medicine of the University of Regensburg, Am BioPark 9, 93053 Regensburg, Germany

26DZPG (German Center for Mental Health), partner site München/Augsburg, Geschwister-Schönert-Straße 1, 86156 Augsburg, Germany.

27Frauenselbsthilfe nach Krebs e.V, Thomas-Mann-Str. 40, 53111 Bonn, Germany

28Netzwerk Männer mit Brustkrebs e.V, Höhenstraße 4, 75196 Remchingen, Germany

29Department of Internal Medicine III, University Hospital Regensburg, Franz-Josef-Strauss-Allee 11, 93053 Regensburg, Germany

30Palliative Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, University of Augsburg, Stenglinstr. 2, 86156 Augsburg, Germany

31National Center for Tumor Diseases (NCT), NCT WERA, Augsburg, Germany.

+These authors should be considered as first co-authors on equal terms.

*Corresponding author: Nina Ditsch, Gynecology, Obstetrics and Senology, Faculty of Medicine, University of Augsburg, Stenglinsr. 2, 86156 Augsburg, Germany

Received: 14 February 2025; Accepted: 20 February 2025; Published: 21 April 2025

Citation: Nina Ditsch, Melitta B. Köpke, Renate Haidinger, Brigitte Welter, Ute-Susann Albert, Christoph Aulmann, Traudl Baumgartner, Stefanie Corradini, Christian Dannecker, Johannes Ettl, Nadia Harbeck, Carolin C. Hack, Anne Herrmann, Christian Hinske, Marion Kiechle, Alkomiet Hasan, Klaus E. Jopp, Monika Klinkhammer-Schalke, Oliver Koelbl, Christoph Jung, Olaf Ortmann, Anna Rubeck, Gernot Müller, Verena Schmid, Frank Kramer, Franziska Feiler, Eva Schildmann, Stephan Seitz, Miriam Weiss, Nadja Will, Achim Wöckel, Eva Schumacher-Wulff, Hedy Kerek-Bodden, Peter Jurmeister, Carl Mathis Wild, Rachel Wuerstlein, Peter A. Fasching, Susanne Kinnebrock, Miriam Kunz, Stefan Schiele, Matthias W. Beckmann. Significant Increase of Patient Information and Satisfaction with Longer Initial Consultation Duration in Breast Cancer - First Results of The WAVES Study. Fortune Journal of Health Sciences. 8 (2025): 296-305.

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Abstract

Aim of the study: The "WAVES" study (Widening Aims and giving patients a Voice for Expanded Structures in breast cancer care developed jointly by patients and physicians) aims to illuminate current breast cancer care structures with special focus on physician-patient-communication.

Methods: The study is conducted within and funded by the BZKF (Bavarian Center for Cancer Research). Here, we present the results of the first preplanned analysis of the survey designed together with patients and patient advocates with the aim of adequately reflecting patients concerns. It is based on the evaluation of the first 1.000 patients who participated between 05/2022 and 08/2023, focusing on the duration of the first diagnosis consultation.

Results: The participants were between 23 and 89 years old (mean: 59.18 years). There was a significant association between longer initial consultation duration and higher patient satisfaction (p < 0.001). When the first consultation lasted 30 minutes or more, patients stated more frequently that they felt better informed (p < 0.001) and had fully or substantially understood the content (p < 0.001).

Conclusion: These results demonstrate a significantly higher satisfaction and better preparation of patients with initial breast cancer diagnosis if physicians’ communication lasted 30 minutes or more. Therefore the WAVES study clearly demonstrates the need for improved communication structures in terms of an appropriate time frame for breast cancer patients, which is not reflected in the current reimbursement structures.

Keywords

Early Breast cancer, Metastastic Breast Cancer, survey, physician-patient communication, Current Care Structure

Early Breast cancer articles, Metastastic Breast Cancer articles, survey articles, physician-patient communication articles, Current Care Structure articles.

Article Details

Introduction

The diagnosis of breast cancer is associated with physical restriction and a heavy psychological burden [1].  Diagnosis, treatment and aftercare therefore require long-term cooperation between the patient and different medical disciplines [2]. However, even if the cancer is overcome, some people still suffer from health restrictions, anxiety or social consequences [3]. This indicates the importance of good clinical care and aftercare. The physician-patient-relationship forms the basis of any disease-related treatment [4-6]. Targeted support from medical staff and self-help groups can help patients to cope with physical and mental stress. Non-directive and evidence-based communication focusing on current needs, values, problems, resources, and preferences exerts beneficial effects [7, 8]. However, the impact of adequate communication is often underestimated and therefore in Germany currently not reflected in planned consultation times or appropriate reimbursement. On the other hand, huge sums are spent on imaging procedures even with exposition to radiation, despite unproven benefits. Therefore, integrating communication as a quality indicator in structured education, treatment and aftercare is the worldwide approach [9]. Nevertheless, this is often difficult in everyday clinical practice, given the scarcity of time and personnel resources.

Evidence-based guideline recommendations for diagnosis, treatment and aftercare often do not consider the real-world setting. In particular, communication over the entire treatment period and beyond is usually only poorly considered as one of the most important prerequisites for successful therapy. To our knowledge, there are also no nationally established communication training standards for physicians. This is precisely where the WAVES study (Widening Aims and giving patients a Voice for Expanded Structures in breast cancer care jointly developed by patients and physicians) comes in. The idea for the study was developed in collaboration with patient advocates. The study focuses on evaluation of the current state of breast cancer care in Germany from the perspective of both patients and physicians. The first survey for patients has the aim of adequately reflecting patients' concerns especially with regard to physician-patient communication with the initial diagnosis of breast cancer. The second questionnaire for patients focuses on topics related to side effects, artificial intelligence and communication during treatment and aftercare. The questionnaire for treating physicians, again designed with patient representatives, focuses on the current care situation of breast cancer patients, based on their communication behaviors. In the long term, the study aims to develop an improved Patient-Centered Communication-Care-Concept (PCCCC) for breast cancer that also takes into account physicians' time management.

Materials and Methods

The study is conducted within and funded by the BZKF (Bavarian Center for Cancer Research). The active involvement and participation of patient and caregiver representatives is unique about WAVES - from conceptualization of the study, the development of the questionnaire to the recruitment as well as the publication and elaboration of the resulting consequences. The study is structured as a two-part questionnaire for breast cancer patients and a corresponding questionnaire for physicians. The first part of the patient questionnaire requests information on: general patient and anamnestic information, initial disclosure of breast cancer diagnosis, second opinion and self-study, treatment period with focus on communication, experience as male breast cancer patient, support from non-physician medical personnel, patient advocacy and support groups, characteristics, diagnosis and treatment of the disease and aftercare. The precise questions’ wording chosen for this publication are listed in the Appendix.

Patients from German certified breast centers (university* and non-university**) and patient advocate networks*** were invited to participate in the WAVES study. Furthermore, the study was promoted online. The study is still recruting. This article presents the first cross-sectional preplanned analysis of the first part of the survey after reaching n=1.000 and is based on those patients who completed the first part questionnaire by the cut-off date (10 August 2023). All participants gave written informed consent and have received or are still receiving treatment for breast cancer, proven by means of a document (e.g. physician's letter). Women and men aged 18 years and older were eligible to participate, regardless of disease stage or time of treatment. The questionnaire could be answered either online or in paper form. Descriptive data and distribution characteristics of the items were calculated for evaluation. Categorical variables were compared by using Chi-Squared tests and continuous variables by using Wilcoxon-Mann-Whitney or Kruskal-Wallis test. The Bonferroni adjustment was used for multiple comparisons.  All statistical analyses were performed with R (Version 4.3.1). The WAVES study was approved by the ethics committee of the Ludwig-Maximilian-University Munich, Germany (Approval 22-0040) and was performed in compliance with German law and according to the standards set in the Declaration of Helsinki 2013. The trial is registered at ClinicalTrial.gov (NCT06416293).

Results

Cohort description

The majority (723 participants) was treated at one of the six Bavarian university hospitals, 228 patients came from other non-university hospitals in Bavaria, 41 from other federal German states; 8 did not give any information. The vast majority (98%) of participants were women, 2% men; diverse was not selected as an answer option. The mean age was 59.18 years (1st and 3rd quartiles: 51–68) and ranged from 23 to 89 years. 224 (23%) patients were undergoing treatment for primary breast cancer at the time of the survey, 645 (66.1%) were in follow-up care, 107 (10.1%) were undergoing treatment for metastatic or locally progressive disease (a detailed overview of the tumor characteristics is reported in appendix table 1). High school graduates were represented slightly above average in the cohort compared to the national average of 34% in 2022 (for details see Table 1).

Table 1: Overview of Age, Sex and School Education of the Participants

Patients who did not provide any information here were excluded in this table.

Variable

Mean

1st and 3rd quartile

Minimum - Maximum

Age

59.18

51, 68

23 – 89

Category

Number

Percent

Sex

Female

980

98

male

20

2

School education

High school (“Abitur”)

410

41.4

Secondary School

393

39.7

Middle School

179

18.1

No School Diploma

8

0.8

Patient characteristics and emotions impacting overall satisfaction with first consultation

Overall satisfaction (feeling of being well informed) with the consultation at initial diagnosis showed no association with the age of the patient (≤50 vs. >50 years) (Chi²(1) = 0.22, p=0.642) or metastatic disease (Chi²(1) =1.30, p=0.255). Patient satisfaction was highest when the initial consultation was conducted by gynecologists (Chi²(4) = 16.85, p = 0.002). Patients with a high school diploma were more likely to be dissatisfied with the explanatory discussion compared to patients with lower school leaving certificate (Fig. 1).

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Figure 1: Association between overall satisfaction at first consultation and school graduate

Predominant feelings in connection with the announcement of the diagnosis were shock (54.8%), fear (39.7%) and helplessness (27.7%), with no significant difference between patients with a shorter or longer period of counseling (example fear: Chi²(4) = 7.94; p = 0.094).

Duration and satisfaction with timeframe of first consultation at initial breast cancer diagnosis

The duration of the first consultation was assessed and the consultation could be rated via a categorical rating scale, ranging from very good (1) to poor (5). The first information about the diagnosis of breast cancer was most frequently provided by the gynecologist (34.8% in private practice, 16.7% in hospital), and second most frequently by the radiologist (37.5%). Others had their first consultation with an oncologist (7.5%) or their general practitioner (3.5%); 0.2% made no statement. The duration of the first consultation varied widely according between 10 minutes (23.0%), 15 minutes (20.5%), 20 minutes (19.9%), 30 minutes (16.1%) and >30 minutes (13.4%). 7.1% did not specify the duration.

The proportion of patients who reported the duration of the consultation as being "just right" increased with longer duration of the first consultation (s. Figure 2). Whilst only 12.7% of the patients felt the duration of the consultation was "just right" at 10 minutes, with 20 minutes duration 57,7% of the patients felt that this was “just right”. If the conversation lasted more than 30 minutes, 90.1% of the patients rated the duration as "just right". This difference in satisfaction was highly significant compared to 10 or 20 minutes, respectively (both p < 0.001).

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Figure 2: Overview of the relation between first consultation duration and satisfaction with timeframe length.

Differences between the groups are statistically significant (10 min vs. >30 min: Chi²(1) = 195.48, adjusted p<0.001, Cramers V = 0.763; 20 Min vs. >30 Min: Chi²(1) = 39.41, adjusted p<0.001, Cramers V = 0.351). The length of consultation had a significant impact on the patients’ ratings of the consultation as well (Chi²(1) = 101.70, p<0.001, Cramers V = 0.332)). Patients who reported longer consultation times (≥30 minutes) evaluated the quality of information in these consultations more positively than patients who reported shorter consultations (see Table 2).

Table 2: Association between evaluation of the first consultation and duration of the conversation
Patients who did not provide any information here are excluded in this table.

10–20 minutes,

30 minutes or more,

p-value

N = 634

N = 295

Feeling of being informed with first breast cancer diagnosis

<0.001

Very good or good (1 and 2)

318 (50.6%)

250 (85.3%)

Satisfactory, sufficient or insufficient (3, 4 and 5)

310 (49.4%)

43 (14.7%)

Understanding the content of the conversation

Patients who were counselled for 30 minutes or longer were significantly more likely to say that they understood more during the consultation than those who had a consultation of 10-20 minutes (Chi²(1) = 16.04, p<0.001, Cramers V = 0.132) as shown in Table 3. Notwithstanding the significant differences in the understanding, 73% of all patients stated that they were able to make a treatment decision afterwards.

Table 3: Association between duration of the first consultation and perceived informedness
Patients who did not provide any information here are excluded in this table.

Understood everything/

Did not understood everything/ unsure

p-value

all essentials

Duration of first consultation

<0.001

30 minutes or more

269 (91.8%)

24 (8.2%)

10-20 minutes

512 (81.7%)

115 (18.3%)

Discussion

To the best of our knowledge, this is the first study investigating the current care structure in breast cancer focusing on physician-patient communication. Although Physician-patient communication can be defined as the most important aspect of psychosocial care [10] and known significant associations between communication skills and quality of life [11], there has still been no implementation of these insights in everyday clinical practice. A further German survey summarized that physicians should take more time for explanations [12]. It is therefore incomprehensible that there are no PCCCC or adequate billing codes available, while, on the other hand, expensive diagnostics are paid for. All this in the knowledge that good communication could avoid over-diagnostics triggered by excessive anxiety [13]. There is a lot of data on shared decision making, but so far only limited studies [14, 15] have considered the time factor. The WAVES study was conducted to assess the current status of communication during the initial consultation for breast cancer. The results of this preplanned analysis confirm the assumption that the quality of communication (indicated by a predominantly good understanding of the content) is associated with a longer duration of the first consultation and thus with a better understanding of the disease. A long first consultation is not necessarily a synonym for a high-quality consultation [16]. Nevertheless, these data show that with longer duration of the consultation both the content was significantly better understood and overall satisfaction was significantly higher.

These results support previous data that trust – which takes time - is the basis of physician-patient communication. Therefore physicians should be aware of the impact of the time spend together with the patient, not only the content of the conversation itself. It is now recognized that patient motivation is also crucial to treatment success and adherence, therefore shared decision making is increasingly practiced [17]. Basic principles of patient-centered communication include: providing information truthfully, listening actively, showing empathy, capture the need for information, using understandable language and comprehensible information material, identifying individual stressors, problems and needs, motivating self-determination and personal activities ("empowerment"), giving hope and offering further assistance [18, 19]. When one tries to implement these many points in everyday clinical practice, it quickly becomes clear that there should be enough time to do so. Several studies have already confirmed the importance of ‘taking time’ and having an empathic conversation during diagnosis notification, treatment [20] and also in the aftercare [5]. In the real world, however, the system provides for fast processing in favor of increased patient case numbers and economic efficiency. The results show that different specialists conduct the initial diagnostic consultation. According to the patients, they were most satisfied when the consultation for the first confirmed diagnosis of breast cancer was conducted by a gynecologist. This shows the importance of developing a clear process in the future to guarantee a prompt presentation at a certified breast center for those affected.

Starting from this, the WAVES study aims to evaluate the resulting needs and work towards an improved system that meets the needs of both patients and physicians. Ideally, the results will be reflected in an adjustment of reimbursement and lift physician-patient-communication up to the same level such as examinations and diagnostics. One advantage of this study is the large number of patients, which suggests that it is a representative sample of breast cancer patients in Bavaria/Germany. Furthermore, the questions were co-developed not only by physicians but also by patients and patient representatives to ensure that the questions that best reflect patients' concerns are addressed. Despite the proof of breast cancer diagnosis, a limitation of the study might be the lack of verifiability of the data, as the patients themselves entered all data. Thus, it cannot be ruled out that there may only be a subjectively perceived high understanding, especially regarding medical facts – a discrepancy that has already been shown before [21]. A bias cannot be ruled out regarding the evaluation of the questionnaire based on the current state of mind and mood. In general, this bias can be considered normal, as memories are also evaluated more positively when being in a better state of mind [22]. As the evaluation of the time shows no significant association with the current state of mind it seems that it is not an unreflected positive evaluation of the interview just because of a good mood. Follow-up studies should test the effect of specific personal and digital communication strategies on patient outcomes, to counter potential negative effects of information provision, especially in uncertain situations. Ultimately, specific communication strategies could be harnessed in clinical care to improve patient outcomes [23, 24]. Further evaluations of the WAVES study are being planned.

Conclusions

First results from the WAVES study show significantly higher patient satisfaction with physician-patient communication at the initial disclosure of breast cancer diagnosis when the physician takes time for it (≥ 30min). This was also applied to a substantially higher understanding of the content. The latter seems to be particularly important for patients with High School diploma. As this need for sufficient patient-physician-time is yet not reflected in the current reimbursement structures, these data provide the basis for a potential restructuring of the treatment and care of breast cancer patients.

Funding

This project has received 300.000 Euro funding from the Bavarian Cancer Research Center (BZKF) between 2021 – 2024 (grant number: SG/MAM/24/Basis). A.H.: work on this manuscript was supported by the German Center of Mental Health (grant number: 01EE2303C).

Other

Competing Interests

No conflicts of interests regarding this study from any author.

Author Contributions

All authors contributed to the study conceptualization. Material preparation, data collection and formal analysis were performed by Nina Ditsch, Melitta B. Köpke and Stefan Schiele. The original draft of the manuscript was written by Nina Ditsch and Melitta B. Köpke. All authors participated in the Review and Editing of the Draft and approved the final manuscript.

Participating certified breast centres and patient organisations

* Bavarian University Hospitals:

Augsburg, Erlangen, TUM and LMU Munich , Regensburg, Wuerzburg

** further certified Breast centres:

Rotkreuz Hospital Munich (Michael Braun, Anne Andrulat), Hospital Dritter Orden (Isabelle Himsl, Franz von Koch), Hospital Fürstenfeldbruck (Moritz Schwörer, Constanze Türpe)

***Patient organisations and advocates:

mamazone e.V, Brustkrebs Deutschland e.V, BRCA-Netzwerk e.V, Mamma MIA – Die Krebsmagazine, Frauenselbsthilfe nach Krebs e.V, th!nk pink club e.V, Netzwerk Männer mit Brustkrebs e.V, Nicole Kultau (online blog), Allianz gegen Brustkrebs e.V.

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Appendices

Appendix Table 1 – Overview of the tumor characteristics

Data in absolute and relative numbers. Since 20 patients had bilateral disease, a total of 1020 tumors are listed.

Tumor size

    cT1a (-0.5cm)

37

3.60%

    cT1b (>0.5-1cm)

153

15.00%

    cT1c (>1-2cm)

327

32.10%

    cT2 (>2-5cm)

269

26.40%

    cT3 (>5cm)

68

6.70%

    cT4

20

2.00%

    I don‘t know

88

8.60%

    Not specified

58

5.70%

Histopathological type

    'in situ'

33

3.20%

    Other typ

46

4.50%

    Ductal carcinoma in situ

57

5.60%

    invasive ductal with in situ component

70

6.90%

    Invasive lobular

132

12.90%

    Invasive mucinous

9

0.90%

    Invasive tubular

5

0.50%

    medullar

5

0.50%

    NST (Non special type)

438

42.90%

    Not specified

225

22.10%

Estrogene  receptor status (ER)

    Negative

149

14.60%

    Positive

626

61.40%

    Not specified

245

24.00%

Progesterone Receptor status (PR)

    negative

221

21.70%

    positive

511

50.10%

    Not specified

288

28.20%

HER2

    negative

561

55.00%

    positive

214

21.00%

    Not specified

245

24.00%

Grading

    G1

112

11.00%

    G2

457

44.80%

    G3

247

24.20%

    GX

3

0.30%

    Not specified

201

19.70%

Lymph node involvement

    Yes

186

18.20%

    no

758

74.30%

    Not specified

76

7.50%

Appendix 2 - Excerpt from the Questionnaire

The questions included in the analysis from the first part of the patient questionnaire are listed here. As the survey was conducted in German, the questions listed have been translated into English.

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